Britsabroad
March 6th, 2004, 08:50 AM
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kaarmaa
05-04 11:48 AM
What happens, once he moves to the new employer and his present employer withdraws I-140? For any subsequent H1 transfers/extensions will he will need to have an approved I-140, which is not withdrawn ?
Could there be issues, if new employer does a lay off what happens when perm/i-140 is pending or not filled yet
Correct. Withdrawn I-140 cannot be used to transfer or extend a H1 that has expired (after 6 years).
The following statement may be incorrect. Please consult an attorney
You can again transfer to a new employer for the reminder of the H1 validity without I-140 or PERM. After it expires, to extend or transfer again, you would need an approved PERM or I-140.
Could there be issues, if new employer does a lay off what happens when perm/i-140 is pending or not filled yet
Correct. Withdrawn I-140 cannot be used to transfer or extend a H1 that has expired (after 6 years).
The following statement may be incorrect. Please consult an attorney
You can again transfer to a new employer for the reminder of the H1 validity without I-140 or PERM. After it expires, to extend or transfer again, you would need an approved PERM or I-140.
vaishnavilakshmi
07-10 02:54 AM
DOS issued one more bulletine today on 9th July 2007 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Krupa,
Dont just post something for fun here.And don't play with viewers in this forum who participate to seek some suggestions,information etc .Please don't mislead us anymore.
"Either try to help or just control urselves".
Vaishu
Hi Krupa,
Dont just post something for fun here.And don't play with viewers in this forum who participate to seek some suggestions,information etc .Please don't mislead us anymore.
"Either try to help or just control urselves".
Vaishu
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pa_arora
07-02 12:09 PM
Read that again..they said it right..."All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation" have been made available.
SO to say they have made available whatever they had for 2007..and they are now out of it.
-p
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Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations inresponse to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation
have been made "available".=============
================================
I think they meant to put UNAVAILABLE there....
bastards dont know how to spell !!!
SO to say they have made available whatever they had for 2007..and they are now out of it.
-p
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Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations inresponse to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation
have been made "available".=============
================================
I think they meant to put UNAVAILABLE there....
bastards dont know how to spell !!!
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bigboy007
05-30 11:11 AM
I think then they go for a conference and agree upon a common point if not nothing is passed
gc_maine2
07-03 03:21 PM
see answers in Red
Hello all,
I need clarifications on how to answer certain questions in the I-134 form. Can someone here please help?
__________________________________________________ _______________
2. I am __ years of age and have resided in the United States since (date) ______
Do I enter the date I first landed in the US, or the most recent landing?Yes date of first time entry into US
__________________________________________________ _______________
3. Name of spouse and children accompanying or following to join person:
I am sponsoring my mother and father. Do I name them here? Or should I have separate I-134 forms for each parent and leave "Name of spouse" above blank?You need 2 i-134 forms, for your father write your mother name, & for your mother's 134 write your father name
__________________________________________________ _______________
7. I am employed as or engaged in the business of _______ with _______
Should I enter my company's business type in the first blank and name of the company in the second blank?Your title"programmer" with .. Company Name______________________________________________ ___________________
8. The following persons are dependent on me for support:
My wife and I file our tax as married/joint, and we do not claim each other as dependents. Should I leave the above item blank? Do I leave this blank?
__________________________________________________ _______________
9. I have previously submitted affidavit(s) of support for the following person(s). If none, state none.
I had sponsored my wife's H4 when she came to the US 2 years ago. I'm not sure if I did I-134. Do generally people file this during H4 sponsorship?I don't think you need to write your wife name, this is generally of you have sponsored visitor visa for your brother sister., in-laws.. ect.. if you have not sponsored anyone don't write anything
__________________________________________________ _______________
10. I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the......Date Submitted?
I had of course sponsored my wife's H4. For date submitted, what date should I use? "None" , but check with others
__________________________________________________ _______________
11. I xIntend xdo not intend to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in item 3
What should I enter here?
Check Intent to & wirite that all expenses incl. but not limited to ticket, accomdation, medical & . if you want exact text PM me
__________________________________________________ _______________
Thanks in advance!
Hello all,
I need clarifications on how to answer certain questions in the I-134 form. Can someone here please help?
__________________________________________________ _______________
2. I am __ years of age and have resided in the United States since (date) ______
Do I enter the date I first landed in the US, or the most recent landing?Yes date of first time entry into US
__________________________________________________ _______________
3. Name of spouse and children accompanying or following to join person:
I am sponsoring my mother and father. Do I name them here? Or should I have separate I-134 forms for each parent and leave "Name of spouse" above blank?You need 2 i-134 forms, for your father write your mother name, & for your mother's 134 write your father name
__________________________________________________ _______________
7. I am employed as or engaged in the business of _______ with _______
Should I enter my company's business type in the first blank and name of the company in the second blank?Your title"programmer" with .. Company Name______________________________________________ ___________________
8. The following persons are dependent on me for support:
My wife and I file our tax as married/joint, and we do not claim each other as dependents. Should I leave the above item blank? Do I leave this blank?
__________________________________________________ _______________
9. I have previously submitted affidavit(s) of support for the following person(s). If none, state none.
I had sponsored my wife's H4 when she came to the US 2 years ago. I'm not sure if I did I-134. Do generally people file this during H4 sponsorship?I don't think you need to write your wife name, this is generally of you have sponsored visitor visa for your brother sister., in-laws.. ect.. if you have not sponsored anyone don't write anything
__________________________________________________ _______________
10. I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the......Date Submitted?
I had of course sponsored my wife's H4. For date submitted, what date should I use? "None" , but check with others
__________________________________________________ _______________
11. I xIntend xdo not intend to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in item 3
What should I enter here?
Check Intent to & wirite that all expenses incl. but not limited to ticket, accomdation, medical & . if you want exact text PM me
__________________________________________________ _______________
Thanks in advance!
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EADQuestion
08-14 12:21 AM
My EAD expiring on September 9th, 2010. I applied June 16th 2010, Notice date 23rd June 2010.
I have not received anything so far. I have India travel planned on August 27th.
My worry is if I receive Finger printing notice when I am in India, what will I do?
USCIs expedite request denied because 75 days not over yet.
What are my options? Losing my sleep over this. Pls answer..
I have not received anything so far. I have India travel planned on August 27th.
My worry is if I receive Finger printing notice when I am in India, what will I do?
USCIs expedite request denied because 75 days not over yet.
What are my options? Losing my sleep over this. Pls answer..
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azharuddinm
07-23 11:46 AM
i did not inculde the P.O Box is this an issue ?
I used the below add for FEDEX.
Nebraska Service Center
850 "S" Street,
Lincoln, NE 68508
I used the below add for FEDEX.
Nebraska Service Center
850 "S" Street,
Lincoln, NE 68508
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zimmy100
03-24 12:30 PM
Friends,
I am in the same boat. I filed EB 2 labor in Nov 2006 under PERM process and alos my
I-140 got approved on Sep.
In 2007 before July, I ask my company it self they gave me EB3 labor with July 2004 priority date. So I substitute the labor under EB3 in March 2007 and it got approved in Sep 05, 2008.
When I was filing EB2 , I 140 in Dec 2007, requsested attorney to do porting. As I said it approved already (Sep 07,2008) but case did not get port.
Attorney saying she did fallow up with USCIS but she got response back that since they (USCIS) already approved my case she can only do proting when I file 484 under EB2 category. One more thing is I filed 485 EB3 in July 2007 and this is my greatest mistake which I ever done in my life.
Guys am not sure how much true my attorney is! isn't it true that if USCIS made a mistake or overlook a case(pending more than an year @ USCIS) attorney should fight back?
I do not know how can I trust this answer. Share your thoughts...
-Thanks for your thoughts..
I am in the same boat. I filed EB 2 labor in Nov 2006 under PERM process and alos my
I-140 got approved on Sep.
In 2007 before July, I ask my company it self they gave me EB3 labor with July 2004 priority date. So I substitute the labor under EB3 in March 2007 and it got approved in Sep 05, 2008.
When I was filing EB2 , I 140 in Dec 2007, requsested attorney to do porting. As I said it approved already (Sep 07,2008) but case did not get port.
Attorney saying she did fallow up with USCIS but she got response back that since they (USCIS) already approved my case she can only do proting when I file 484 under EB2 category. One more thing is I filed 485 EB3 in July 2007 and this is my greatest mistake which I ever done in my life.
Guys am not sure how much true my attorney is! isn't it true that if USCIS made a mistake or overlook a case(pending more than an year @ USCIS) attorney should fight back?
I do not know how can I trust this answer. Share your thoughts...
-Thanks for your thoughts..
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vaishnavilakshmi
07-17 05:16 PM
Hi !,
yeah,Point-D clearly states that the visas available for july applications and applicants earlier and from august priority dates are unavailable.Lets c how they consider us!Iam a july 2nd filer.
vaishu
yeah,Point-D clearly states that the visas available for july applications and applicants earlier and from august priority dates are unavailable.Lets c how they consider us!Iam a july 2nd filer.
vaishu
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reddy2cool
10-20 02:19 PM
4 th grader is born in the country where as all the highly educated people are not ..
So wht do you mean? Should we consider it as his achievement? why cant we have better educated people decide it?
So wht do you mean? Should we consider it as his achievement? why cant we have better educated people decide it?
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immigrationvoice1
01-10 11:49 AM
Just curious: When will USCIS process my 485?.....
.....probably we would not have an organization like this.
.....probably we would not have an organization like this.
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dilipb
02-07 04:56 PM
Seriously speaking I still am not convinced....
Can someone ellaborate on this more?
Thanks...
Can someone ellaborate on this more?
Thanks...
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chnaveen
04-24 10:18 AM
I understand the pain beacuse of these RFE as we all are waiting for our GC.
There is no need to worry about these kind of RFEs. Just like and RFE asking for latest empolyment verfication letters and W2s, this RFE for Marrige proofs is also similar.
As there is a possibility of the couple getting divorced, USCIS wants to make sure, the couple are still married during the entire process time of their GCs.
It doesn't mean that, in every one's case, they send this RFE, It's just Random.
And in case, if any one of the couple, sends any information to USCIS that they are not living together and a chance of getting divorced, then in those cases, USCIS sends the RFE.
But in most other cases, it's just Random. We have to reply to that RFE with the documents such as, the Marriage certificate, any documents to show that you are still married and living together, like, any Bank statements with Joint accounts, Birth certificates of the recent kids born to the couple etc.
There is no need to worry about these kind of RFEs. Just like and RFE asking for latest empolyment verfication letters and W2s, this RFE for Marrige proofs is also similar.
As there is a possibility of the couple getting divorced, USCIS wants to make sure, the couple are still married during the entire process time of their GCs.
It doesn't mean that, in every one's case, they send this RFE, It's just Random.
And in case, if any one of the couple, sends any information to USCIS that they are not living together and a chance of getting divorced, then in those cases, USCIS sends the RFE.
But in most other cases, it's just Random. We have to reply to that RFE with the documents such as, the Marriage certificate, any documents to show that you are still married and living together, like, any Bank statements with Joint accounts, Birth certificates of the recent kids born to the couple etc.
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anu_t
07-24 01:19 PM
If one has a copy of 140 but it has been revoked (no fraud) , when applied for porting how does USCIS finds out the cause of revoking 140? Does USCIS has some kind of data regarding that?
Like what if the labour has been substituted? How one will get this information?
Like what if the labour has been substituted? How one will get this information?
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mkrisa
08-11 10:16 AM
[QUOTE=sush;136161]EAD is based on pending I-485 and for filing 485, you just need 140 received. So you are OK. My uunderstanding is you can also use AC21 portability after 180 days to change employers as long as your employer doesn't revoke your I-140. So there is that risk with I-140 not approved.
If I continue to be on my H-1B status after filing for I-140,I-485, EAD and I-131 concurrently, can my spouse who is currently on a H-4 Visa opt for her EAD after 90 days of filing these forms? If the answer to that question is an yes, is there any limitation in the kind of jobs she can do?
Also, what happens to her status if the I-140 application or I-485 application gets declined? Can she jump back to H-4 or does it require her to go to her home country for re-stamping? Do you see any potential issues in having her H4 visa re-stampped as she initiallay came to this country as a dependent and then later she used her EAD to work in USA.
If I continue to be on my H-1B status after filing for I-140,I-485, EAD and I-131 concurrently, can my spouse who is currently on a H-4 Visa opt for her EAD after 90 days of filing these forms? If the answer to that question is an yes, is there any limitation in the kind of jobs she can do?
Also, what happens to her status if the I-140 application or I-485 application gets declined? Can she jump back to H-4 or does it require her to go to her home country for re-stamping? Do you see any potential issues in having her H4 visa re-stampped as she initiallay came to this country as a dependent and then later she used her EAD to work in USA.
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sayantan76
07-16 02:29 PM
NSC is famous for being the slowest of them, sorry to break your heart.
My I140 and 485 were filed in Dec'2006. I got my I140 approval notice (email alert from USCIS) last week.
My I140 and 485 were filed in Dec'2006. I got my I140 approval notice (email alert from USCIS) last week.
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stucklabor
02-04 04:51 PM
Behind Bush's New Stress on Science, Lobbying by Republican Executives
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By JOHN MARKOFF
Published: February 2, 2006
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 1 � President Bush's proposal to accelerate spending on basic scientific research came after technology industry executives made the case for such a move in a series of meetings with White House officials, executives involved said Wednesday.
In his State of the Union message Tuesday evening, Mr. Bush called for a doubling within 10 years of the federal commitment to "the most critical basic research programs in the physical sciences."
The president's science adviser, John H. Marburger III, said Mr. Bush would request $910 million for the first year of the research initiative, with a commitment to spending $50 billion over 10 years.
Computer scientists have expressed alarm that federal support for basic research is being eroded by shifts toward applied research and shorter-term financing. But in his speech, Mr. Bush pointed to work in supercomputing, nanotechnology and alternative energy sources � subjects that were favorites in the Clinton administration but had not been priorities for the current White House.
What was different this year, according to a number of Capitol Hill lobbyists and Silicon Valley executives, was support on the issue by Republican corporate executives like Craig R. Barrett, the chairman of Intel, and John Chambers, the chief executive of Cisco Systems.
Industry officials eager to see a greater government commitment to research held a series of discussions with administration officials late last year that culminated in two meetings in the Old Executive Office Building on Dec. 13.
There, a group led by Mr. Barrett and Norman R. Augustine, a former Lockheed Martin chief executive, met with Vice President Dick Cheney. A second group headed by Charles M. Vest, the former president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, met with Joshua B. Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget.
The industry and science leaders told the officials that the administration needed to respond to concerns laid out in a report by a National Academy of Sciences panel headed by Mr. Augustine. It warned of a rapid erosion in science, technology and education that threatened American economic competitiveness.
The report, "Rising Above the Gathering Storm: Energizing and Employing America for a Brighter Economic Future," has been circulating in draft form since October. It was put together by a group of top technology and science leaders, who say the country faces a crisis that the Bush administration is ignoring.
"The gravitas of that group," Dr. Vest said, "has a lot to do with how we got as far as we did."
Still, even after the meetings, the executives and educators were not certain that the administration would respond. So President Bush's proposal on Tuesday night came as something of a surprise.
Albert H. Teich, director of science policy for the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the nation's largest professional organization for scientists, called Mr. Bush's proposal "a breath of fresh air."
"We haven't seen this interest in basic research from this president before," Mr. Teich said. "We in the science community have talked about the state of basic research for quite a while, with its flat or declining budgets, and we are hopeful about this initiative."
Mr. Barrett of Intel, according to people who worked with him, had grown particularly frustrated with the lack of progress on the matter.
In a speech to the National Academy of Engineering in October, in which he described the findings of the Gathering Storm report, Mr. Barrett said: "If you look at the achievement of the average 12th-grade student in math and science, which is of interest to us here, that 12th-grader in the U.S. ranks in the bottom 10 percent among their international peers. I think it is incumbent upon all of us to look at that report and help raise our voices collectively to our local officials, state officials and national officials."
The executives said that the administration had also been induced to respond by a growing bipartisan movement in Congress supporting basic research and education.
Two bills tackling this matter have recently been introduced. One is the Protect America's Competitive Edge Act, by Senators Pete V. Domenici, Republican of New Mexico; Jeff Bingaman, Democrat of New Mexico; Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee; and Barbara A. Mikulski, Democrat of Maryland. A similar bill was introduced by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut. Several of the senators met with President Bush in December to encourage him to support the competitiveness legislation.
"We're excited the president has jump-started this and that it is very bipartisan," Dr. Vest said.
Now the technologists and the educators are waiting to see the specifics of the financing when the president's budget is introduced next week. The report had called for an annual 10 percent increase over the next 10 years, and several executives said they now expected a rise of 7 percent annually, putting annual spending around twice the current level in 10 years.
Peter A. Freeman, the National Science Foundation's assistant director for computer and information science and engineering, said the president's initiative would make a big difference.
"We're obviously not at liberty to say what will be in the president's budget next week," Mr. Freeman said, "but we're very hopeful based on the State of the Union address. This is a strong sign that this administration will continue to be very supportive of fundamental science and engineering."
Despite there being little detail yet with precise figures, even those who had been publicly critical of the administration were enthusiastic.
"This is really a huge deal and I'm very encouraged," said David A. Patterson, a computer scientist at the University of California, Berkeley, who is president of the Association for Computing Machinery, a professional group.
At the same time, though, Mr. Patterson was concerned that the president's proposal to double funds for basic research drew little applause from the Congressional audience on Tuesday night. "It just shows the challenge we have," he said. "It wasn't obvious to the legislators."
Warren E. Leary contributed reporting from Washington for this article.
Article Tools Sponsored By
By JOHN MARKOFF
Published: February 2, 2006
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 1 � President Bush's proposal to accelerate spending on basic scientific research came after technology industry executives made the case for such a move in a series of meetings with White House officials, executives involved said Wednesday.
In his State of the Union message Tuesday evening, Mr. Bush called for a doubling within 10 years of the federal commitment to "the most critical basic research programs in the physical sciences."
The president's science adviser, John H. Marburger III, said Mr. Bush would request $910 million for the first year of the research initiative, with a commitment to spending $50 billion over 10 years.
Computer scientists have expressed alarm that federal support for basic research is being eroded by shifts toward applied research and shorter-term financing. But in his speech, Mr. Bush pointed to work in supercomputing, nanotechnology and alternative energy sources � subjects that were favorites in the Clinton administration but had not been priorities for the current White House.
What was different this year, according to a number of Capitol Hill lobbyists and Silicon Valley executives, was support on the issue by Republican corporate executives like Craig R. Barrett, the chairman of Intel, and John Chambers, the chief executive of Cisco Systems.
Industry officials eager to see a greater government commitment to research held a series of discussions with administration officials late last year that culminated in two meetings in the Old Executive Office Building on Dec. 13.
There, a group led by Mr. Barrett and Norman R. Augustine, a former Lockheed Martin chief executive, met with Vice President Dick Cheney. A second group headed by Charles M. Vest, the former president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, met with Joshua B. Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget.
The industry and science leaders told the officials that the administration needed to respond to concerns laid out in a report by a National Academy of Sciences panel headed by Mr. Augustine. It warned of a rapid erosion in science, technology and education that threatened American economic competitiveness.
The report, "Rising Above the Gathering Storm: Energizing and Employing America for a Brighter Economic Future," has been circulating in draft form since October. It was put together by a group of top technology and science leaders, who say the country faces a crisis that the Bush administration is ignoring.
"The gravitas of that group," Dr. Vest said, "has a lot to do with how we got as far as we did."
Still, even after the meetings, the executives and educators were not certain that the administration would respond. So President Bush's proposal on Tuesday night came as something of a surprise.
Albert H. Teich, director of science policy for the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the nation's largest professional organization for scientists, called Mr. Bush's proposal "a breath of fresh air."
"We haven't seen this interest in basic research from this president before," Mr. Teich said. "We in the science community have talked about the state of basic research for quite a while, with its flat or declining budgets, and we are hopeful about this initiative."
Mr. Barrett of Intel, according to people who worked with him, had grown particularly frustrated with the lack of progress on the matter.
In a speech to the National Academy of Engineering in October, in which he described the findings of the Gathering Storm report, Mr. Barrett said: "If you look at the achievement of the average 12th-grade student in math and science, which is of interest to us here, that 12th-grader in the U.S. ranks in the bottom 10 percent among their international peers. I think it is incumbent upon all of us to look at that report and help raise our voices collectively to our local officials, state officials and national officials."
The executives said that the administration had also been induced to respond by a growing bipartisan movement in Congress supporting basic research and education.
Two bills tackling this matter have recently been introduced. One is the Protect America's Competitive Edge Act, by Senators Pete V. Domenici, Republican of New Mexico; Jeff Bingaman, Democrat of New Mexico; Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee; and Barbara A. Mikulski, Democrat of Maryland. A similar bill was introduced by Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut. Several of the senators met with President Bush in December to encourage him to support the competitiveness legislation.
"We're excited the president has jump-started this and that it is very bipartisan," Dr. Vest said.
Now the technologists and the educators are waiting to see the specifics of the financing when the president's budget is introduced next week. The report had called for an annual 10 percent increase over the next 10 years, and several executives said they now expected a rise of 7 percent annually, putting annual spending around twice the current level in 10 years.
Peter A. Freeman, the National Science Foundation's assistant director for computer and information science and engineering, said the president's initiative would make a big difference.
"We're obviously not at liberty to say what will be in the president's budget next week," Mr. Freeman said, "but we're very hopeful based on the State of the Union address. This is a strong sign that this administration will continue to be very supportive of fundamental science and engineering."
Despite there being little detail yet with precise figures, even those who had been publicly critical of the administration were enthusiastic.
"This is really a huge deal and I'm very encouraged," said David A. Patterson, a computer scientist at the University of California, Berkeley, who is president of the Association for Computing Machinery, a professional group.
At the same time, though, Mr. Patterson was concerned that the president's proposal to double funds for basic research drew little applause from the Congressional audience on Tuesday night. "It just shows the challenge we have," he said. "It wasn't obvious to the legislators."
Warren E. Leary contributed reporting from Washington for this article.
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kittu1991
09-09 01:28 PM
I had applied for PERM in 2006 with software programmer title with 8 yrs exp in EB2 and got it approved so i don't think it should be a issue. I have applied my second PERM in April 09 as senior software engineer with 10+ exp in EB2 still waiting to get it approved. My lawyer never raised any issue with my current labor in EB2 so i think we should qualify in EB2 with software engineer position. Where did you find this information about limiting EB2 to managers only? If you want to get in the line for GC don't waste time.. do it ASAP. It is taking a long time to get PERM approvals, don't know whats going on at DOL and why it is taking this long. There are hardly any approvals after Nov 08. Did anyone with PD after Nov 08 got their PERM approved recently?
The fact that there is no approval and you don't know what they are going to do with your new perm application is the concern raised. As long as we are seeing any EB2 approvals for SW engineers how can we conclude that nothing has changed and everything will be so easy going. My sis has applied for perm in apr2008 and she got 3 RFEs to which she responded 6 months ago and still waiting.
The fact that there is no approval and you don't know what they are going to do with your new perm application is the concern raised. As long as we are seeing any EB2 approvals for SW engineers how can we conclude that nothing has changed and everything will be so easy going. My sis has applied for perm in apr2008 and she got 3 RFEs to which she responded 6 months ago and still waiting.
n4nature
02-05 12:37 PM
Actually I am from one of those "hate times" of 2001-recession and then since I was not one of those so called (by you) "hate groups", was able to manage into development eventually.
So from now on please refrain from vomiting your frustrations online and rather talk to the people whom you dislike and may be they could help you.
Sorry for your thinking but thanks for your post though!
So from now on please refrain from vomiting your frustrations online and rather talk to the people whom you dislike and may be they could help you.
Sorry for your thinking but thanks for your post though!
jliechty
February 1st, 2004, 10:05 PM
Composition has been defined as "the strongest way of seeing" (IIRC, that's from Edward Weston, but I'm probably getting my photographers and quotations mixed up here). There are different ways to see the same thing. Flowers are a frequently-photographed object, and sometimes it can be hard to find a unique way to portray them. I'm not a terribly experienced photographer, and I don't really want to give any "rules" to follow to get a "good" picture, but here are a few guidelines you might consider as you get started:
Try to avoid a "busy" appearance, with too many subjects competing for attention (In my personal, humble, opinion, your picture has many clusters of flowers, and it's difficult to tell what exactly is the focus of the image).
Pay attention to what's in the background; go for contrast of brightness, color, or both. A low-angle shot, looking up at a medium blue flower against a blue sky, would probably not be the most visually stunning picture one could compose.
The "rule of thirds" is a good guideline for those of us (including myself) who haven't figured out when's a good time to break it and when's not. Imagine two horizontal lines and two vertical lines, dividing the picture into three equal segments horizontally and vertically. Near any one of the intersections of these lines is generally considered a visually strong point to place an important element of your composition.
For some subjects (flowers in particular), a shallow depth of field is recommended, as it helps lower the distractiveness of elements in the background. I think that in the shot you've posted here, opening up the aperture (setting a lower f-stop number) would have decreased the impact of the background flowers, and drawn more attention to the foreground one.
Oh, and feel free to experiment with all sorts of combinations. In my experience, the standard "looking down" angle of flower shot is less visually appealing, because that's the way we generally look at flowers when we are walking through the garden in our backyard (this is a simple property of physics, since most flowers tend to have considerably less height than the average human being ;)). Try out different angles and zoom settings to see what you find appealing (wide, or short focal length, to show more background behind the flower and give a longer depth of field - or far, a long focal length, to "compress" the background and provide a shorter depth of field to isolate the subject from its surroundings).
I'm sure other more experienced members will be able to do better (and probably already have, in the time I took to type up this verbose post), but perhaps this will give you something to think about while you wait for a better answer. :)
Edit: I realize that I made a few negative comments about your picture, without really saying anything positive. For one, I like the contrast of the flowers against the leaves behind them, and I think with a little Photoshop work this could be made even a little more striking. Let's not get lost in all the "rules" and "guidelines" and forget that this subject has lots of potential. I think with a slight change in angle, framing, and DOF, you'd be able to change a picture that may be mediocre to one that is very stunning.
Oh, and another suggestion that can be good for adding just a bit more interest to flowers is to photograph them when they have water droplets on them. Watering or misting the flowers just before you're ready to shoot can be a way to "supply" the drops if they are missing during the time of day when you feel that the lighting is at its best. :D
Try to avoid a "busy" appearance, with too many subjects competing for attention (In my personal, humble, opinion, your picture has many clusters of flowers, and it's difficult to tell what exactly is the focus of the image).
Pay attention to what's in the background; go for contrast of brightness, color, or both. A low-angle shot, looking up at a medium blue flower against a blue sky, would probably not be the most visually stunning picture one could compose.
The "rule of thirds" is a good guideline for those of us (including myself) who haven't figured out when's a good time to break it and when's not. Imagine two horizontal lines and two vertical lines, dividing the picture into three equal segments horizontally and vertically. Near any one of the intersections of these lines is generally considered a visually strong point to place an important element of your composition.
For some subjects (flowers in particular), a shallow depth of field is recommended, as it helps lower the distractiveness of elements in the background. I think that in the shot you've posted here, opening up the aperture (setting a lower f-stop number) would have decreased the impact of the background flowers, and drawn more attention to the foreground one.
Oh, and feel free to experiment with all sorts of combinations. In my experience, the standard "looking down" angle of flower shot is less visually appealing, because that's the way we generally look at flowers when we are walking through the garden in our backyard (this is a simple property of physics, since most flowers tend to have considerably less height than the average human being ;)). Try out different angles and zoom settings to see what you find appealing (wide, or short focal length, to show more background behind the flower and give a longer depth of field - or far, a long focal length, to "compress" the background and provide a shorter depth of field to isolate the subject from its surroundings).
I'm sure other more experienced members will be able to do better (and probably already have, in the time I took to type up this verbose post), but perhaps this will give you something to think about while you wait for a better answer. :)
Edit: I realize that I made a few negative comments about your picture, without really saying anything positive. For one, I like the contrast of the flowers against the leaves behind them, and I think with a little Photoshop work this could be made even a little more striking. Let's not get lost in all the "rules" and "guidelines" and forget that this subject has lots of potential. I think with a slight change in angle, framing, and DOF, you'd be able to change a picture that may be mediocre to one that is very stunning.
Oh, and another suggestion that can be good for adding just a bit more interest to flowers is to photograph them when they have water droplets on them. Watering or misting the flowers just before you're ready to shoot can be a way to "supply" the drops if they are missing during the time of day when you feel that the lighting is at its best. :D
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